5W Friday Panel: Infinity War

Every Friday Whenever we feel like it, the Fifth World will host a virtual panel session on a topic of the week. This week's subject: Avengers: Infinity War!

JL Franke
For the record, while we do this chat, I'm catching up on Jessica Jones season 2 and alternately hoping they all die and that they all make it.

Sean Fields
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You won’t be happy.

Marc Singer
So true.

JL Franke
Why do I get the feeling that Malcolm, the only character I actually like, is the only one who buys it?

Marc Singer
Hey, what are the odds that any of the Netflix series end with half the cast suddenly evaporating?

Yeah, I thought so.

Sean Fields
None. But if they did it to Luke Cage season 2 then Marvel can have all my money.

JL Franke
Of course, I also have the entire season of Agents of SHIELD to go through.  I have to assume there should be some carnage there.

Sean Fields
Just like if they didn’t bring anyone dead back then Marvel will win.

AoS mentioned Thanos but they have 2 episodes left so you’ll see.

Marc Singer
So, are we ready to do this?

Sean Fields
Yup

JL Franke
Yep!

Dvandom
Here


Marc Singer
Okay! Avengers: Infinity War - what did you think?

Sean Fields
2.5 hour rollercoaster ride. Thanos was likable. His plan was not thought out.

JL Franke
I surprised myself, because when I first left the theater, I thought it was fun but a bit silly. But the more I thought about it, it really grew on me. It's one of the few Marvel films that improved in my mind after thinking about it.

Sean Fields
Logically it doesn’t make sense but I really liked it.

JL Franke
What turned it around for me was when I realized that Thanos was the protagonist of the movie.

Marc Singer
Yeah, I think this movie definitively buried Marvel's villain problem.

JL Franke
I thought Black Panther did that, but maybe this placed a lovely wreath on the grave.

Sean Fields
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Marc Singer
Vulture, Killmonger, and then Thanos for the finishing move.

JL Franke
You got that right, Marc!

Dvandom
As I've said elsewhere, when you're convinced your problem is a nail, all your tools become hammers. Before he got the Gauntlet, "kill half the people on a planet" was about all Thanos could do to solve the Malthusian Crisis. Thus, he never really considered other ways to solve the problem WITH the Gauntlet besides "kill half the people immediately." He's a tragic protagonist in that sense, with his tragic flaw being monomaniacal focus on a single solution.

Sean Fields
Yup, Dave.


But I can’t get hung up on that too much because it wouldn’t be a movie if people did things that made sense.

JL Franke
I did think that the "nihilistic social activist" take on Thanos didn't fit the narrative as well as Thanos, the dude wanting to get into Death's pants, but I think it was necessary to generate at least a germ of sympathy for him.

Marc Singer
I love the literalism of Thanos's original motivation as much as anybody, but I think this worked better for the big screen.

Sean Fields
Agree

Marc Singer
And it does make it much easier for him to serve as the film's dark protagonist.

(Also, the guy is still a dude named Thanos who wants to kill half the universe. Plenty of literalism remaining!)

Dvandom
Also, the MCU has avoided going as full-on cosmic as the comics. Magic is just a different sort of science, gods are merely powerful aliens (although they may think of themselves as gods), Collector and Grandmaster are powerful in terms of what they have and who follows them, but aren't super-powerful personally, etc. An embodiment of Death would push kinda hard against the limits they've been establishing.

Marc Singer
Yeah, they hadn't done the set-up for it. And Marvel movies are all about the set-up.

Sean Fields
Think Red Skull was their visual allusion to Death but they couldn’t do more than that at this point.

JL Franke
Actually, the lack of setup worries me a bit for the second half of the story. Infinity Gauntlet depended heavily on the idea that "the only one who can defeat God is God Himself."

Marc Singer
Oddly enough, Adam Warlock would have worked perfectly in that role as the guardian of the soul stone.

But I guess they've saved him for GOTG3, which will come out after the Thanos story, which... why, exactly do you need Warlock at that point?

JL Franke
And the sequel won't have Starfox to send it home.

Marc Singer
Still think Kurt Russell shoulda been Starfox instead of Ego.


JL Franke
Kurt Russell would have been a much better Starfox than Ego.

Sean Fields
I think Warlock will serve as Guardian’s villain a la Magus.

Marc Singer
Yeah, but Warlock just seems superfluous at that point.

Sean Fields
Also think this is just being set up for Tony or someone to convince Thanos to fix stuff.

Marc Singer
I assume Dr. Strange's plan depends on Thanos winning and then seeing the error of his ways, because otherwise his decision makes NO sense.

Dvandom
I'm hoping that some point in Av4 will have Cap meet Red Skull and have to decide whether to trust him. ๐Ÿ˜Š

JL Franke
Getting back to Dave's point, I do think that the way MCU has been noncommittal to the cosmic does trip up IW a bit.

Sean Fields
All the MCU movies seem to be about folks (ie men) needing to grow up and finding different solutions rather than brute force.

Marc Singer
True.

Sean Fields
Or being better than the enemy.

Dvandom
Strange's plan could also foresee "Thanos lets down his guard, Nebula grabs the gauntlet" as in the comics.

I mean, as emotionally satisfying as "Thanos does a face turn" might be, the movie is gonna need a big slobberknocker fight at the end.


JL Franke
If the films were made to make me happy (and we've long established they really aren't), we'd have already seen that Thanos has lost because at the end, we're seeing his fondest wish. The second movie is all about connecting the final scene on Earth (post-credit scene notwithstanding) and that final Thanos scene.

Marc Singer
On another note - before Infinity War, I was pissed at Justice League for shying away from Darkseid and substituting a boring video game cut-scene villain in his place.

After Infinity War, I think Warners would be well advised not to do a Darkseid movie at all for the next, oh, ten or so years. Because Josh Brolin's Thanos had absolutely everything I love about Darkseid.

JL Franke
I agree with Dave's suggestion. There's otherwise no reason to leave Nebula, who at this point in time is played by the worst actor remaining in the cast, to still be around.

Sean Fields
If I had my say, everyone who is dead would stay dead. They could still make their scheduled movies with different folks. But no studio would ever do that.

JL Franke
True. The film Thanos was more Darkseid than Thanos to me.

Marc Singer
The family drama. The cold command. The brutal realism when everyone around him is a fanatic or a flunky. He's got it all.

Hell, midway through the movie I started calling that one follower of his "Space Desaad" - which reminds me, could any of those characters please get names?

Not pictured: Space Kalibak, Vanilla Lashina, or The Other One
JL Franke
From what I can tell, they made an abrupt left turn away from doing Darkseid for the next JLA movie (assuming it ever gets made, and you know it'll get made somehow) to do a Legion of Doom starring the Luthor no one wanted and possibly the most boring Deathstroke ever.

If I recall correctly, they received 1.5 names.

Marc Singer
Yeah, not looking forward to that. But it would be better than trying to go head to head with Brolin's Thanos, because for the first time ever, that is a fight Darkseid would lose.

Dvandom
Yeah, problem with using semi-obscure comics characters is that you NEED TO NAME THEM CLEARLY ON-SCREEN. You can't assume people know the lady is Proxima Midnight, even if she has a toy on the shelves.

Sean Fields
Ebony Maw, Proxima Midnight, Cull Obsidian and Corvus Glaive, but I only know that because I was a fan of Infinity.

Marc Singer
I did catch Thanos referring to Maw. And I loved that you could sense the regret at his loss - not that it dissuaded him from his plans in the slightest.

Dvandom
Whether we think Thanos is the protagonist, he definitely thinks he's the protagonist.

Marc Singer
Yep. It may be the next movie's task to disabuse him of that notion - or else make him earn it.

JL Franke
Having everyone who's dead stay dead would make a very odd Guardians of the Galaxy 3.

Sean Fields
Just do GOTG with Rocket and the Ravagers.

JL Franke
I maintain that he's the protagonist primarily because it's the only way for the film to embody an entire narrative arc.

Marc Singer
Can I say, my first reaction on leaving the theater was "Who got the Guardians of the Galaxy in my Avengers movie?"

Way too much shtick, long past the point where I was done.

JL Franke
True that. But Marvel is fairly well convinced that shtick is what makes them great. Witness Thor: Ragnarok.  (Yes, I went there.)

Marc Singer
And it puts butts in the seats for the Guardians movies. But this wasn't a Guardians movie.

Dvandom
Yeah, Thor 3 had about 20% more schtick than I would have liked.

Marc Singer
I felt like most of the cast (and most of the characters I cared about most) got sidelined while we watched endless scenes of Star-Lord and Drax mugging.

JL Franke
At least the movie kept both Cap and Panther noble.  I would have been really pissed if they'd both been Guardianified.

Marc Singer
Yeah, but they were hardly in it!

JL Franke
True. Though the image burned into my memory is the one of the two of them sprinting past and out in front of their army to fight the alien horde.


Marc Singer
The earthbound Avengers really got slighted in this movie. I can think of at least three things I wanted to see once the cast reached Wakanda:

1. At least some Wakandans who aren't sure if they should be taking the brunt of Thanos's attack to save a world they do not trust.

Dvandom
(Okoye sort of kvetched about that)

Marc Singer
(or really, to give the Avengers a chance to save the Vision - even less reason for them to risk everything!)

2. Cap debating that exact point with T'Challa - the perfect opportunity for a Cap speech as only Chris Evans can sell it.

3. The reaction of the Avengers, especially Falcon and War Machine, on seeing Wakanda for the first time.

Any one of those would have meant more than Drax eating chips.
Also, me leaving the theater two minutes earlier would have meant more than Drax eating chips.

Dvandom
I kinda felt that they were steering towards "the Vibranium meteor has an Infinity Stone at its core, hence all the plot devicey stuff Vibranium can do" in BP, but then forgot about it for IW.

JL Franke
To be fair, they did get that ridiculous scene where the non-powered heroes beat the snot out of the bad guys who were taking down Vision and Wanda.

Marc Singer
Eh, I didn't mind that. They clearly established that the Nameless Spawn of Thanos could take down any single Avenger, but not two or three at a time.

JL Franke
Yeah, you have a good point about 3 in particular. It was very clear they did not know about Wakanda, or at least Sam didn't.

Marc Singer
And I liked Vision and Wanda in this, as they finally got some real screen time together.

Sean Fields
Yup.

JL Franke
I'm just glad they got rid of Wanda's godawful accent. So, Ororo in X-Men, now Wanda. Have I missed any other superhero characters who got better after they ditched bad accents?

Marc Singer
Anyone ever written by Chris Claremont.

So, what did folks think of the Iron Man/Dr. Strange/Spider-Man side of the story?


Sean Fields
Good dad stuff with Tony who may have finally grown up after 10 years.

JL Franke
I thought it was fine until the Guardians showed up.

Marc Singer
I have to say, I loved the idea that Stark and Strange instantly hate each other because they're so much alike.

Sean Fields
YES ๐Ÿ‘†

Marc Singer
They did a nice job of selling it without hanging a lampshade on it.

Dvandom
They showed remarkable restraint in making no Sherlock jokes.

JL Franke
If only they'd cast Jude Law as the Vision, they could have also had Everett Ross in the film to get the whole gang involved.

Sean Fields
I liked that Tony met the two crappy cocky versions of him if he didn’t have Rhodey or Pepper in his life- Strange and Quill.

Marc
Yeah, absolutely. And is kind of disgusted at himself!

The Iron Man movies have always had the problem that Stark is constantly resetting for each new one, undoing any growth he supposedly achieves.

JL Franke
I don't have as much an aversion to Strange as I do to Quill, but I see your point.

Dvandom
And his first scene has a reset where Pepper complains about the reset and he tries to justify it but knows he's wrong. ๐Ÿ˜Š

Marc Singer
But if this is really Downey's swan song, confronting him with these other, more asinine versions of himself might be the way to generate some real character growth before he goes.

Dvandom
Phase 4: Riri takes over as Iron Man.

JL Franke
After diversity killed Marvel sales?  (sarcasm intended there)

Sean Fields
I knew this was a good movie because I didn’t outright think of Tony as the MCU villain in this one.

Marc Singer
What about Spider-Man? I have to say, his entry into the film felt like the most Marvel Comics moment in any Marvel movie to date.

Sean Fields
Holland is perfect Spidey in anything he does.

JL Franke
Something I am quite impressed by, apparently Peter's final words were improved.

improvved?

Sean Fields
Improvised?

JL Franke
Yes, that.

Marc Singer
Yeah, Holland is the best. Also, I loved the visual representation of his spider-sense - genius.


Sean Fields
I need Spidey to come back just to meet Shuri.

JL Franke
Didn't the Raimi movies already do that?

Poor Shuri.  She had so little to do this film.

Marc Singer
But I mean, "shit happens in Manhattan and Spidey just shows up to help two other random Marvel heroes stop it" is kind of the Platonic ideal of a Marvel comic.

Sean Fields
I have a feeling Shuri got most of Vision’s mind so we might get that ghostly gray vision for a bit, maybe.

Dvandom
Pale yellow.

JL Franke
Ah, the Byrne Vision.

Marc Singer
LET US SPEAK OF THIS NO MORE!

Sean Fields
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JL Franke
I am disappointed that we didn't get to see Ant-Man and the Wasp here.

Marc Singer
Yeah, I feel like Marvel always releases the Ant-Man movies one spot too late.

First they introduce Hank Pym after Ultron, and now we get the wacky comedy movie after Infinity War, which will be... odd.

Dvandom
(Ant-Man & Wasp toys are already in stores.)

Personally, I think Vision's personhood is inside the Mind Gem, foreshadowed by that "changing and mutating" sort of discussion. And that could be part of the key to victory.

JL Franke
That's an interesting thought, Dave. Especially given what may have happened with the Soul Gem.

Dvandom
And that brings up a number of "will it work like in the comics?" questions. The Soul Gem was actually a sort of pocket eden dimension in the comics, where all souls taken by it lived in peace. Did it suck up half the souls in the universe? Gonna be crowded.


JL Franke
Not if the folks in the soul gem kill half of those being kept there...

Marc Singer
So that scene of Thanos meeting the young Gamora - was that inside the soul gem?
If so, then maybe it has become a lot more crowded...

JL Franke
(Spoiler) According to the Russos, that's exactly what happened.

Sean Fields
Maybe Thanos is dead too and all they have to in the next movie is assemble the gauntlet and the stones, Dragonball style.

Marc Singer
I think this was their "Dragonball" movie, and it was Thanos's task to accomplish. The Avengers need to do something else next time.

I did think it was awfully convenient (and not necessarily unwelcome) that they cleared out all the other heroes so the next movie can focus squarely on the original Avengers.

Sean Fields
Gotta make them earn the last movie of that contract.

Marc Singer
I don't even think it has to be that mercenary. They did one movie with ALL the Marvel heroes, and now they're going to take it back the MCU's origins to close out the cycle. That seems fitting.

JL Franke
Just tossing this out there, but I was extremely happy to see almost all my favorite (and in my opinion, best) actors were the ones who survived.  Swap out Karen Gillen for Chadwick Boseman, and you pretty much have a clean sweep.  Not all of that is due to needing to match the comics.  I think they're giving these folks their swan song, but I also think that this signals that the next movie will be high drama.

Marc Singer
I will say that I hated seeing Spidey go. I get that it happened dramatically to motivate Tony, but I am of an age when Spidey helped deliver the definitive ending to Thanos.

Take him away, boys!
Sean Fields
What's crazy is that the next movie will be the first movie where they will actually earn the name Avengers.

They'll actually be avenging something.

JL Franke
Unless we find out that half the universe have been to Tahiti (it's a magical place).

Sean Fields
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JL Franke
Speaking of which, do we think that the Avengers have found out about Coulson yet?  I mean, wouldn't at least Sif have told Thor?

Sean Fields
Where is Sif?

JL Franke
I assume Hela murdered her.

Sean Fields
She hasn't been around since a random AoS episode.

Dvandom
Maybe Loki will come back in her body.

Marc Singer
I have to say, I wholeheartedly approve of the movies' policy of ignoring AoS and Coulson's resurrection. Or just ignoring AoS in general.

So, given what almost certainly has to happen in the next Avengers movie, is Marvel going to have even bigger problems with their revolving door of death?

I mean, what deaths have stuck in the MCU? Quicksilver?

Sean Fields
I'm upset that they killed the MCU's big hero- Heimdall.

Yeah, Quicksilver and bad guys, except Red Skull.

Marc Singer
Plus all of Asgard, which seems like a shitty way to stomp on the ending of Ragnarok, although that could potentially get undone.

Sean Fields
I think Thanos only got half the ship. Looked split in half in the beginning of the film.

JL Franke
To me, Ragnarok the movie already stomped on Ragnarok, but that horse is probably dead by now.

Again, according to the Russos, they'd already let half the ship live.  The amount of information being conveyed after the fact is more than a bit disturbing.

Marc Singer
You'd think the Guardians would have seen the survivors if that was the case.

Dvandom
Unless they were being evac'ed in the time between the boom and the Guardians showing up.

JL Franke
I believe they said that they left in escape pods quite some time prior to the beginning of the film.

Sean Fields
Maybe Thanos used the space gem and threw them somewhere. Yeah, wasn't explained well.

Dvandom
Valkyrie and the Skarr fighters weren't seen at all, for instance.

Marc Singer
I think at this point Marvel has to either undo all the Asgardian deaths or just write off that strand of their cinematic universe for a while. There's nothing left.

Dvandom
(Also, since Hela probably killed about half of Asgard, you'd think Thanos would figure job well done and only kill the ones directly fighting him.)

Sean Fields
True, and Thor is the Destroyer.

Marc Singer
So was this the end for Loki? Or has he escaped death yet again? (Or will that death get reset, too?)

Sean Fields
Hope he is dead. I liked Loki but he should stay dead.

Dvandom
I mean, by this point you'd think Loki would have done something to make sure just snapping his neck wouldn't kill him.

JL Franke
I imagine they'll use the JMS Thor storyline to resurrect the Asgardians with a mostly new cast, though if Hiddleston wants to come back, who'd say no?

Marc Singer
I do wonder how they can wrap this up in a way that is dramatically satisfying but still leaves them with a fully stocked Marvel universe to play around in.

JL Franke
I imagine part of it will be the heroic sacrifice of the original Avengers to bring the rest of the universe back. The amount of times they said, "we don't trade lives" has to be a Chekov's gun.

Marc Singer
Speaking of which, can we talk about some of the decisions the Avengers make in this film?

Dvandom
Each original Avenger needs to absorb an Infinity Gem and go to the distant corners of the universe, a sort of inverse Infinity Watch. They don't die, but they do sacrifice. And Peter has to be the one to tell Pepper.

Sean Fields
Sacrifice is necessary to win. Thanos got it and they didn’t except for Strange, who had the cheat of alternate future peek.

Marc Singer
Yeah, Strange's glimpse into all the futures is the only possible rationale for his mystifying decision to spare Tony's life and kill half the universe.

Sean Fields
“It was the only way.”

JL Franke
Yeah, they hammered that home.

Sean Fields
That’s why I was only partially upset at Starlord because he had to be dumb for later success in the next movie.

Marc Singer
But the other characters make some pretty odd decisions too. Like Stark deciding to confront Thanos on his home turf with... a sorcerer who's already gotten his ass kicked once and a teenage kid!

Sean Fields
Yeah, that seems like strictly a plot movement choice.

Marc Singer
I would have rather the writers just said they had no way of turning the ship around.

JL Franke
I thought that fit Stark's personality. He's incredibly intelligent, but not very wise, just to pull out those D&D character sheets.

Sean Fields
Actually did they?

Dvandom
It was "We can't turn the ship around...but maybe we shouldn't try" IIRC.

Sean Fields
Yeah, think that was it.

Marc Singer
They didn't try, they didn't use Strange's sling ring. I can see it as another sign of Stark's hubris, but I think the script needed to hit that beat a little more to sell it as a deliberate choice.

Really, the heroes' character beats kept getting drowned out. When it was in favor of Thanos's surprisingly rich character, I didn't mind. When it was for shtick, I did.

JL Franke
IW did that far less than Ragnarok, so I guess I found it an improvement overall.

I was disappointed by Bruce Banner, though. Not the Hulk's refusal to come out and play -- I thought that actually upped the Thanos threat quite a bit that he could scare the Hulk -- but that Banner kind of acted like he was being played by TJ Miller and not Mark Ruffalo.

Sean Fields
I'm interested to see where they go with Hulk/Banner. Think they said this is the 2nd part in his 3 film story/growth arc.

Marc Singer
It's going to be a pretty disconnected arc, IMO.

I think you can definitely read Hulk as scared, but the next movie is going to have to confront that head-on.

JL Franke
Amazing that they're doing that after he had two movies of his own (yeah, I know, the first one didn't count).

Was anyone else disappointed that Banner and Natasha only had that one awkward hello scene?

Marc Singer
I thought it was weird that the trailer shot of Hulk charging with all the other heroes didn't make the final cut. For story reasons, I assume, but it was a good shot!


Sean Fields
Thought there would be more there but death and destruction was coming so... Natasha would have been like "Focus, Bruce."

Marc Singer
I assume the next movie will have all the interactions between the core Avengers (including a Cap/Tony confrontation that clearly needs to happen).

Sean Fields
I really thought Hulk was going to bust out of the armor.

JL Franke
I think by that point it couldn't happen. Either Thanos would have to kill Hulk or Hulk would have had to help defeat Thanos.

Marc Singer
Speaking of core Avengers... did you know that there was a sixth founding Avenger called (checks notes) "Hawkeye"?

JL Franke
Apparently we'll see him in the next film. I guess he accidentally bleached his purple tights and was busy getting fitted for new duds.

Sean Fields
Hawkeye is going to be angry Ronin in the future. (btw think the movie is going to happen in the future)

Marc Singer
I have to say, I didn't miss him. It's a shame that the Avenger with the strongest personality in the comics gets zero personality on film.

JL Franke
Any predictions for the next film?

Marc Singer
Hawkeye goes on a Lee-Marvin-in-Point-Break vengeance crusade against the children of Thanos!

BLANK. Point BLANK.

But holy shit, now I want to see Lee Marvin in Point Break!

Dvandom
Carol Danvers will have Cosmic Awareness and be key to Strange's endgame.

Marc Singer
The way Marvel is setting up Captain Marvel really has me worried about her role in the next Avengers movie.

(In a word: Triumph.)

No, not the insult comic dog... sadly.
(Or maybe Sentry would be more appropriate.)

Dvandom
Since she probably won't be A Hero For All The Wrong Reasons.

Sean Fields
Tony is obsessing over how to save everyone for at least 5 years. Carol finally shows up. Cap comes up with a plan. Nebula has to sacrifice big with all the other original Avengers. Time reset.

Marc Singer
I am kind of avoiding predictions for the next movie. I was able to see this one with absolutely no spoilers and almost no preconceptions, and I'd kind of like to keep that going into the finale.

Sean Fields
I think I may try that as well, Marc. This is just my random thinking.

Alright, got some work to do over here, guys. Good talk. Good night.

JL Franke
I think (a) the original Avengers sacrifice themselves to destroy the Infinity Gauntlet, perhaps trading their life force for the half of the universe that were sucked away, (b) Carol Danvers becomes the new leader of the new Avengers, and (c) the Guardians mess up a poignant ending with shtick.

Marc Singer
I will say that I think the Russos could do a lot with a pared-down cast, and of course I look forward to more of Josh Brolin as Thanos, who worked better (both visually and dramatically) than I could have hoped going in.

JL Franke
It helps that they got rid of almost all the shtick-y characters other than Rocket. But thankfully Bradley Cooper can handle drama, too.

Marc Singer
Actually, I didn't mind Rocket in this, for maybe the first time. Not sure why that is.

JL Franke
I have to assume in the next film, he'll be wielding Bucky's arm.

Dvandom
Rocket seems to have been coming to the realization that not only does he actually care about the Guardians, but also that he's gonna have to be The Responsible One. For his sins.

Marc Singer
I think promoting him to "captain" actually did wonders for his character! And I liked his interplay with Thor.

Jerry, your b) is kind of what I'm worried about. (And c too, I guess.) If it's going to be the swan song for this cast of Avengers then it ought to be their story. The final victory shouldn't come down to a retroactive continuity insert.

JL Franke
Marc, I think (b) can be done without Carol being the Mary Sue of the MCU. With Cap gone (hypothetically), there's not a lot of leaders left.

Dvandom
Cosmic Awareness may actually tell Carol that the thing she needs to do is the hardest thing...step back and don't do anything.

Marc Singer
If it's an aftermath kind of thing, sure. But if the climax of the Avengers' story comes down to a character who's "been around for twenty years" (but we've only seen for one movie) then that could be building up future franchises at the expense of the ones everybody is invested in.

JL Franke
Speaking of which, can I just say Peter Dinklage as Eitri was inspired casting!

Marc Singer
I thought the inspired bit was making him bigger than everybody else.

JL Franke
That was being true to the mythology, if I recall my recent Gaiman read correctly.

Marc Singer
Any other final thoughts?

Dvandom
Let me check my notes.

Assuming the SHIELD writers get any sort of advance info (not necessarily a good assumption), the fact that the Kree assume Thanos will leave nothing worth stealing from Earth suggests that even if Zen-Whoberi turned into the paradise Thanos claimed...it's a rarity among the worlds he's "helped."

JL Franke
BTW, my only ask for the next movie is it includes this line from Cap:

[cricket noises]

Marc Singer
"I could do this all day"?

JL Franke


(Sorry, had to download first.  Forgot I couldn't upload via URL)
And I think that's all I've got.  You guys have a good night!

Marc Singer
I hope Samuel L. Jackson's first line, on being resurrected, is "...ucker!"


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